Friday, January 22, 2016

Does the Bible Teach That the Charismatic Gifts Are For Today?

Above is a debate between Dr. Sam Waldron, Dean and Resident Professor of Systematic Theology at Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary, and Matt Slick, President and Founder of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry. They debate the question, "Does the Bible teach that the charismatic gifts are for today?"No matter which side of the issue you may be on, I highly recommend watching this debate, which is very instructive and helpful in seeking to understand the important issues involved. I think it may be the best debate I have seen on the issue, especially since it is between two men who share a commitment to Reformed theology. I also think that Sam Waldron won the debate. He did a much better job defending his "cascade argument" than Matt slick did in defending his position.


  1. This subject is very timely having just begun a series on spiritual gifts at my church. I am working primarily from 1 Cor. 12-14 and being diligent to keep it in context. I want my congregation to own the truths found in this passage and examine the Scriptures themselves to see if what I'm teaching is true. This debate has helped to renew my enthusiasm for this type of study. It has been helpful to be reminded of the different views on the topic.

  2. I am getting tired of watching debates on this issue and the cessationist view not asking the right questions. How many people has Mr. Slick healed? Christ and the Apostles healed at will and not necessarily just believers (Luke 17:11-19, 22:51). How many times has Mr. Slick created food or turned water to wine? (John 6:9-14, John 2:6-9)How many times Mr. Slick created money as Jesus did in Matthew 17:27? How many liars in the church has Mr. Slick quieted as Peter did in Acts 5:1-11?

    If we believe the Bible is practical and that faith without works is dead (James 2:17)and if continuationism/charismaticism is true, then they need to put there money where their mouth is! This goes for Slick, Grudem, Piper or Storms or any other continuationist/charismatic.

    1. My intention in posting the video was to offer what I thought was an instructive exchange that was worth watching, not to get into a debate on the subject myself. So, without seeking to defend one side or the other here, I will simply say that you appear to have misunderstood Matt's position in a way that Sam did not. He understood, for example, that Matt never claimed to have any gift of healing or miracles himself, at least not that I heard (although I suppose I could have missed it. With that said, I will just add that, in my opinion, Sam did a much better job defending his position that Matt did.

    2. Hey Keith,

      I do not hold you accountable for the debate performance of Sam Waldron and I appreciate you letting me know about the debate. I do agree with you that Waldron won but still I feel we need to hold continuationists accountable to what they believe. It seems like continuationists believe hypothetically in miraculous gifts continuing but do not continue it themselves. How do they know it continues if they do not continue it themselves or even know anybody who does? If they know somebody who does then that is who Sam Waldron needs to be debating and by the way I have some church members and friends that have multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease and cancer that would love to meet them.

      In keeping with the spirit of James, what profit is a continuationist that does not continue the gifts? Just airing my two cents worth and maybe somebody reading will read it and debate a continuationist and find out the answer to this puzzle.

    3. I appreciate your input very much, brother. Thanks for chiming in!